Notes from thenines online conference

DINO RIZZO, Healing Place Church

The Value of the Small…how do we minister to one person? That is what is really important

What are the small hinges that turn the big doors and make the big impact of increase in our church and as we reach into our community?

Two statements we think about a lot

  1. Stay small – keep Him big.
    1. God wants to grow things; God wants to bless things. But it’s always for His glory
    2. We try to stay small around here, but we’re keeping God big – God has given us a big dream, a big vision to reach this world.
  2. Stay small in our own eyes.

Jenni Catron Cross point

If life was only easy shades of black and white; no complex decisions to be made; if easy right and wrong decisions – there would not be a need for leaders.

As leaders, one of the biggest things we do is help navigate gray. We navigate confusion, complexity – things we don’t see the other side of.

Game changer–when we get our head and heart around that our purpose is to navigate shades of gray and see the reality of a future.

Nehemiah8:48

First, he identifies what is gray what the wall symbolizes

Second, he prays God give me a vision for what you have on the other side of this

Third, he identifies he is to lead and marches through it. Other leaders identified the need but none saw the vision of what God had on the other side of the shades of gray. When we recognize this is where we live, Gray is what we are made to do as leaders Our job is to lead our team, coach them passionately.

Then like Nehemiah, pray through it and march through it.

Didn’t Catch name

Our anthem is risk everything to reach everyone

So often church is a destination where people come but what if the church could be about taking Jesus to the people?

Michael Hyatt

The question determines the result.

People get caught up in negative inner dialogue. Things go from bad to worse.

The shift: instead of focus on past (can’t do a thing about) you shift to the future, which is full of possibilities. Everything becomes possible.

What does this make possible? Question we should ask ourselves when something bad happens.

Mark DeYmaz Mosaic Church

As young pastor, came to a new, mega church. Was scared. Was so dependent on God. • Over 5-6 years, God did some amazing things. • Found it didn’t require faith anymore for me to be there. • My staff, the kids, the volunteers didn’t need me anymore.

We had risen to the top of our game in Student Ministries. • Didn’t require any more faith. • We desperately wanted to please God • We knew we needed to be in a dependent position in order to see God • Some of the things we do, it’s just easy to do. Did God do that or did I do that?

In your current role does it still require faith?

Do you have to depend upon God?

Frank Turk

American history becomes real when the facts aren’t just facts anymore. This can change way you think about our country and our part in it.

Likewise, in the story of Job. Job told God, “I heard of you by the hearing of my ear, but now my eye sees you and I repent.” For Job, God stopped being a story when he saw Yahweh with his own eyes.

That’s why we have to see Jesus as real person. Jesus is God. He obeyed God and even died on a cross.

We have to say this. We have to tell people that Jesus died on a cross. They should get it.

Jesus is not just an icon of spiritual truth or some story about truth

Here we are making and watching videos about how to change the game in church. I think the game was changed when the angels sang out “Glory to God in the Highest, and on Earth, peace to the men on whom His favor rests.”

Now it’s our problem to catch up to that! To live as if it really happened. So we can make much of this Jesus and enjoy Him forever.

If we forget that, the rest of this stuff is just a hobby. Or worse, it’s a way we make ourselves look good and feel good in spite of who we really are.

That’s the way God changed the game for the whole world. Now you and me have to do something about it. Because it is real.

We should act like the people we minister to are Jesus’ people and He’s going to come back for them.’

The churches we serve are Jesus’ house. And we will either make it into something precious to Him or something He wants to burn up like a pile of leaves.

When we gather together, it’s because of His reputation, not ours.

Be with Jesus’ people, in Jesus’ household, on His Day this Sunday, and treat Him like a real person.

Discussion Questions: 1. Do we live as if Jesus was a real person? What does that look like?

2. What would Jesus think about our churches? Is your church acting like they are upholding Jesus’ reputation?

Michael Slaughter

Programs don’t make disciples…disciples make dispiples

Devotion to God (begin every morning in the Word, prayer, journaling) Readiness for life long learning (study multiple disciplines) Investing in key relationships Visioning for the future (God’s future) Eating and Exercise for life

Keld Dahlmann

You cannot motivate people…motivation comes from within

“What are people motivated for?”

Shift from trying motivating people to focus on what are they motivated for and release them to do that has been one of most important shifts in ministry experience

Ed Stetzer

Thursday September 9, 2010 9:42

9:42 Talk Title: The Co-Dependent

Thursday September 9, 2010 9:42

9:42 Planted a church; started with 25 people. Within a year had 125.

Thursday September 9, 2010 9:42

9:43 Still had the 25 at the core. Hadn’t moved the next 100 into mission/serving in ministry.

Thursday September 9, 2010 9:43

9:43 Yet I believed God has called all people to ministry.

Thursday September 9, 2010 9:43

9:43 1 Peter 4:10 Based on the gift they have received, everyone should use it . .

Thursday September 9, 2010 9:43

9:43 When was I called to ministry? • Right answer is at my conversion. I was given gifts then to do ministry.

Thursday September 9, 2010 9:43

9:44 I Cor. 12:7 manifestation of the Spirit is given to each person to produce what is beneficial

Thursday September 9, 2010 9:44

9:44 John 20:21 – Every believer is called to minister…

Thursday September 9, 2010 9:44

9:44 Every believer is called to ministry/sent on mission • Only question is where and among whom?

Thursday September 9, 2010 9:44

9:44 We had a church full of passive spectators. • Why? • Easy to say “laity” lay around. o Pray, pay, and get out of the way of the paid professional

Thursday September 9, 2010 9:44

9:45 Part of the reason was

Thursday September 9, 2010 9:45

9:45 I was gaining my identity from their affirmation for doing for them what God called them to do.

Thursday September 9, 2010 9:45

9:45 • I had entered into a co-dependent relationship with dependent Christians • Gained my identity from their praises • Need to rethink this system of pasturing that causes us to gain our identity from receiving praise for doing what God’s people should be doing. • Any system that disempowers or demotivates people of God is sinful!

Thursday September 9, 2010 9:45

They would praise me • They would get hurt because they weren’t doing what God called them to do. • When pastors do for people what God has called people to do everyone gets hurt and the mission of God gets hindered. • We get hurt

Thursday September 9, 2010 9:46

9:47 aside: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codependency

Thursday September 9, 2010 9:47

Kem Meyer

People aren’t motivated by my change prescription anymore than I’m motivated by theirs.

It’s the clutter we create when we overestimate what we have to say and we underestimate how it’s going to affect the other person.

Patrick Kelley

Psalm 25.3: No one whose hope is in you will ever be put to shame.

That’s what I feared. Shame. (Shame is powerful) I couldn’t fail. My self-esteem couldn’t handle it.

If you are going to fail…fail following God!

Find a hill you are willing to die on and charge the hill

Success is overrated…faithfulness is priceless (my thought not his)

Dave Fergusen

Mission requires permission. (Yes) • Without a “yes”, followers never engage in the mission • Yes reflex – is the reflex of a movement leader

Wait on asking “how” • You sow seeds of doubt if you respond with questions of strategy or tactic.

The old paradigm many churches use • Know your target group, say no to anything else • A great business strategy • Not a movement maker.

Movement requires • Clear set of core values • Leadership with “yes” reflux to many different kinds of ideas, people, spheres of life

Yes doesn’t mean funding, staff, or featured publicity

Yes means it is needed and by using their giftedness with God’s help, it could be accomplished for the good of the Jesus mission.

I Peter 2:9 • You are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, • As a priest – you have a parish – a particular people or place God has sent you. • We wanted to ordain you. Give our blessing by anointed with oil.

A yes reflex • Leads a coute de ta against clergy only ministry • Powerful enough to start a missional movement

Eric bramlett

One simple word. One word, that if we follow through on, it can be a game changer.

In our ministry lives, there are plenty of opportunities to say “yes”. Have we really thought how impactful it can be when you say “no”?

David dancing on the streets. Micah wants him to stop. He says “no”. If Jonah hadn’t said “no”, what the whale do?

Jim Sheppard

Unleash the game changers

Toby Slough (this guy Is living my life!)

Believed God loved me, but only when I performed up to God’s standards.

Felt like I was never going to measure up. When I lay down at night, it was like a movie of all the mistakes I had made

I did what probably a lot of people do. I got into full time ministry. Probably at a sub-conscious level I couldn’t help myself so I wanted to help other people.

The more God blessed me, the less I felt worthy.

Scott Williams http://bigisthenewsmall.com

Thursday September 9, 2010 10:35

10:35 Talk Title: How I See The World

Thursday September 9, 2010 10:35

10:36 What is a game changer? Events or circumstances that change the game

Thursday September 9, 2010 10:36

10:36 Core of every game chager • change in perspective • If you change the perspective, you change the game.

Thursday September 9, 2010 10:36

10:36 In college, tried all different types of churches.

Thursday September 9, 2010 10:36

10:38 • Slim talked about his church • I asked “Is it a black church or a white church?” • Slim answerd “that’s the stupidest question that you could ever ask. It’s not a black church and it’s not a white church—it’s God’s church”. • The heart of the question I asked was is your church a church where I would feel welcomed • Slim’s response changed my perspective • What we see primarily depends on what we are looking for

Thursday September 9, 2010 10:38

10:39 If you want to be a game changer, you must look at things differently.

Thursday September 9, 2010 10:39

10:40 Often we look at things as just one way or the other, black or white. But there are variations of everything we do.

Thursday September 9, 2010 10:40

10:40 Game changer is just a of perspective change away.

Thursday September 9, 2010 10:40

10:40 If you change your perspective, you change the game.

Thursday September 9, 2010 10:40

Matt Carter

Talk Title: Life Is Short

I was at a conference, and the speaker was talking about the story where Jacob wrestles with God. God touches Jacob’s hip and he walked with a limp the rest of his life.

The speaker said “never trust a man of God who doesn’t walk with a limp.” It was one of those moments that sticks with you

I want to tell you about how I got my limp…

5 years ago I was diagnosed with cancer.

It crushed me, frightened me, and shook my faith. I went through depression. Wrestling with why it was happening. Trying to figure out what God was trying to teach me.

Another pastor began ministering to me.

I’m trying to figure what God is doing through this. God doesn’t allow us to go through anything except for our good. I’m called to God’s purpose, I love the Lord, so I’m clinging to that truth.

The pastor told me, “Matt, I don’t know if your going to live or die, I don’t know. But I know this–God is calling you to live with unction.”

“I said, “tell me what unction means.”

“It means to live with Holy urgeancy.” “Read Psalms 39 and call me tomorrow.”

So I read Psalm 39.

David is praying to the Lord. David asks a question of God in Psalm 39.4

“Lord, make me to know my end, and what is the extent of my days. Behold, you have made my days as hand breadths. And my lifetime as nothing in your sight. Surely every man is at best a mere breadth.”

David looks at the Lord and says, “show me how long I’m going to live. Show me it’s a mere breadth.”

Why would David ask of God to show him how short his life is?

The answer in the following verse is because most men live their lives in vain.

There is a direct connection between you understanding how short your life really is and the urgency with which you’ll live that life.

If you knew for a fact that tomorrow you would die, and this is your last night on earth, how would you live tonight?

You would live it with urgency. It would change the way you pray. You’d pray with more passion.

It’d change the way you treated your wife. Change the way you spoke to your children.

It’d change the way you view sin. If tomorrow you die, are you going to look at pornography tonight? No you won’t.

It’d change the way you read the scriptures. You’d read the scriptures as if they were a lifeline between you and the father.

A couple weeks ago I found out that for 5 years now I’ve been cancer free.

But the prayer that I pray to the Lord, for myself and for you, is that you and I would live our lives with urgency, with the holy unction. Making every single day count for his Kingdom and his glory.

Troy Gramling

Talk Title: Face The Pain

Pain.Our ability to handle pain determines our success in whatever it is we are leading.

Pain is something we normally avoid. Not all pain is bad.

James 2 – consider it pure joy, brothers, when you face trials . . .

There’s a problem when our leadership becomes about pain avoidance.

When we lead avoiding pain, we become very cautious. – No risk, not quick to opportunity.

When we lead out of pain, we tend to please the wrong people.We tend to please the people who cause us the greatest pain, and more times than not, they are going in the wrong direction.

God uses pain to mature us.

All pain is not good. How do you discern between the two?

-2 timothy Be sober minded. (When you are in pain you think wrong) -Endure suffering (It’s going to hurt; don’t give up) -Do the work of the evangelist (be around new people – they are hungry, excited, passionate) -Fulfill your ministry (even though you are hurting, don’t quit)

Jonathon Falwell

God created me and called me to be me…not someone else

David couldn’t wear Saul’s Armor…He did battle with what God had given him

Eric Geiger

Jethro conversation Exodus 18

Becoming a pastor means leaving the ministry…as a follower of Christ we are servants, but as a pastor we are to teach others to minister

Eph 4:11-12

JD Greear

Learning/understanding the goal of a sermon – Lecture—leave with new information – Motivational speech—leave with action steps – Sermon—leave worshipping

Balloon illustration…instead of us tapping them up each week we need to change what is inside so that they float on their own.

Give God more weight than the other things in our lives.

Angela Yee

The Focus Funnel

Scott Lehr

Honesty and Expectations

Honesty – admitting we don’t know what we are doing

Expectations – Expect God to be God

We would rather live life with our issues than let God control our issues

Craig Groeschel

Talk Title: Less Is More

A game changing thought that impacted me…

Doesn’t seem like a big thing, but has made a big difference.

I heard less is more

I believed more is more. Sometimes it is.

Finally internalized and believed less is more.

Less time leads to a better result. More time leads to sloppiness, More time, less creativity Less time, more creativity (forces it) On our team, we don’t make long term plans anymore. The 5 year plan is dead and stupid. Instead try to be prepared and flexible to respond to God.

Fewer resources lead to greater innovation Build small and use more often Keep staff lean (35% of budget) – more volunteers raised up

Less structure is often better As grow, have to have systems and structures But most over-structure. Someone makes a mistake, so they write a policy Policies, paperwork, and boards drastically slow innovation, flexibility, and progress Removed layer of management – I don’t like to hire people to manage. I like to hire people to do With less structure we now minister to more people

Raphael Castillo

Phinehas intervention, when Israel had sinned…was mentioned in a Psalm 106:30

Miles McPhearson

If the church is the Body of Christ, the church should be doing the same thing that Jesus did when He was in His body

Scott Wilson

Instead of doing our own thing we need to take ownership of what our community is doing, and help make it a success. GOOD STUFF!!! Its not about our stuff succeeding, but rather to help our community succeed.

Bob Roberts

Right now, I’m discovering Glocal

No local, no global. First we reached out to other side of the world. People would come back and want to make difference where we are.

Because we reached to the global, it impacted the local.

Jim Tomberlin

Multi site guy….seek him out

Sam Chand

The gamechanger is always people

The answer to every problem is a person

Jud Wilhite

The summit is a state of mind

So, when there’s a hard snap, we remind ourselves • “the summit is a state of mind”.

Love the challenge, love the difficulty.

Don’t get so caught up in the goal you lose the joy of the moment.

Fall in love with the tensions of now, with the climb

Fall in love with the work God has called you to do, not the results.

We don’t talk about the summit. We talk about the climb. • Those are things that make it worth it.

Carl George

Generation to Generation by Edwin Friedman, a rabbi He helped me get a handle on leadership

Leadership is not as much about setting an organizational agenda as it is about being head of a body.

If the head can stay connected to the body, the body will eventually align itself with the head.

Laura koke

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